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you don't know the playing rules especially when there's so much disorganization in washington, there's no reason for the client to get involved. but when you add other taxes now, not just cap gains taxes and so on, now you're talking about high income cities like new york. you're talking about 53% plus another 3.8% with the obama care medicare surtax. >> so 53 -- 57% of the wealthiest out there -- 57% of their income is going to the government. then ron, you also agree even with that the habits are unlikely to change. >> well, that all depends. someone making a million dollars, $100,000 from dividend, 85 from capital gains. under the 250 rule, they're seeing their taxes go up $70,000 or so. under the million dollar proposal by boehner, that's a $30,000 increase. $30,000 is not that much. but it is after tax money. 70,000 is another number. i think it will affect them somewhat. i'm more worried about their future of what they'll not be saving. even the wealthy have to worry about the future. >> so how does it impact spending and give us the ripple effects of these higher tax rates and
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